This one hurt...

[Wonder]

Well, I'm the queen of arguments and I love a good fight once in a while just to get me juiced, but for once, just once, a brawl hit me back. Apparently, since the first place I come to when I get online isn't WF anymore, my 'friends' have come to the conclusion that I'm ditching. I get it. Totally get it. But maybe yew guys don't. It's not working anymore. This rping world; it's not enuff. Having no life and spending hours upon hours on plots and plans, dreams and visions, hopes and goals for one little community of role players; it's just not cutting it anymore. So all that I have done up until now. The fact that I hold the lead posting position that I'd claimed in record time. The characters I’ve developed. The worlds I’ve helped shape. Everything. It all comes down to this. Now, when school; family; friends. When they get in the way of rping for a few days a week. A few weeks a month. Just a few times too many. When I'm not around as much as the 'owners' of the site would like me to be, I get the blame. And one thing is true. Even though it hurts. Even though I wish things remained the same. They didn't. They aren't. They never will be. Change. Good or bad? I don't kno anymore. All I know is that the patience I thought my fellow rp'ers would have; they don't. And I'm sorry. I'm trying. But I guess it's not enuff. Not anymore...

The Proof...
" KilrCircsPenguin: are you going to ditch us @ the site, DK?
Shadow Kam: O.o ditch? wouldn't go that far.
KilrCircsPenguin: cuz becca and i are moving on in plans for the war, and it seems like you don't even care. I mean you RP some really important characters, the war can't happen w.o you. if your just gonna ditch us, we'll probably take a few lesser characters and start another pack
Shadow Kam: O.o wow. yew guys are sure... touchy.
KilrCircsPenguin: well i mean, you used to be so dedicated to it, you'd post all the time, and then suddenly you just stop. and you dont ever rp on AIM, and you never go on the site to post, and you dont miss it when you dont go on for weeks at a time. its not the touchy thing, its the whole fact that if your not gonna stick w. the site, we need to know, we might as well just break off now and forget the war. you made the pack what it is, we all got really involved cuz you got really involved. you posted like hell everywhere, so we posted back. the site would probably be dead by now if you hadn't joined in
Shadow Kam: O.o wow. when did this get all serious? if yew and becca are this desperate for rping, go ahead and start another pack somewhere to keep yewrself entertain, but don't dare touch WF cuz I'd die without it. my life is just booked at the moment. I can't be that dedicated to rping rite now...
KilrCircsPenguin: you said a few hours ago, that honesty, you hadn't been there for just as long as i hadn't and you really hadn't thought anything of it. that doesn't seem near death
Shadow Kam: one day I don't feel like rp'ing one day I do. if yew guys go and ruin the site that we've built for almost an year now just cuz I haven't posted in a week and I don't feel like it now, I'd be just a little bit pissed.
KilrCircsPenguin: i can understand that your life is busy, but did you really get off to watch the ring? cuz you've been on that whole time and unless you put on your away message and then took it off when you got back and its a short movie, then it doesn't seem like you did, and you've had this whole time to reply, what's keeping you from the site? becca and i have been rping like shit and we have all these awsm plots and plans and you don't seem to be active in any of them, nor do you care to be active
KilrCircsPenguin: everybody's lives are hectic. you see all the complaining becca does. you see the small amount of internet time i get now, but becca still gets on in like 3 hour intervals, ready to rping, and i get on the school computers even though we're not supposed to during the weekdays and i havn't gotten off at all today
Shadow Kam: -points to tv and dvd player two feet away- I don't need to get out of this chair to watch a movie.
KilrCircsPenguin: but if its just a little scarey when shark starts posting more than you do
KilrCircsPenguin: o.o two feet away. i hate you. but thats not the point
KilrCircsPenguin: not that hate
KilrCircsPenguin: *)
KilrCircsPenguin: its just, it really hurts when your on a lot, but whenever i hint, or ask for a reply or something, you brush it off. a baby doesn't cry for no reason, but if you give it a bottle and then take it away, it will get unhappy, and you've just taken away my bottle
Shadow Kam: well, for yew guys, wf mite be the only place yew're loyal too, but not for me. I got dozens of friends online to keep up with. 10th grade isn't getting easier and 11th grade, college, and my future is just around the corner. becca's obsessed with boys; that's totally different. it;s her site. she has to go on and post around.
KilrCircsPenguin: we miss you DK
Shadow Kam: yes. but rping -can't- be the center of my life anymore. it's just not the same. I can't ditch everything else even for 5 mins just to go and reply. and when I keep getting bugged to do so, it makes me very moody. It's my personality. yew should know that by now...
Shadow Kam: and if this bothers yew guys so much, go ahead and do what yew like with the site. I just can't keep up anymore. if yew can't give me some slack and wait a tad longer, I'm out...
KilrCircsPenguin: your not the only person w. life problems
Shadow Kam: well, then why does it seem that way? I'm the one that seems to get bugged to reply when yew guys are bored.
KilrCircsPenguin: i mean, least you have a reason to think about college, my moms still bugging me about AP classes, she keeps trying to bug me into being something that I'm just not, and she keeps saying how i hafta be perfect or she'll take me to phyciatrists and try to see why for some reason i dont want to talk to her, and she always says i had a bad influence when iw as little and she doesn't want me to turn out like my sisters and brother, but i'm not f**k ing them, and i dont need that pressure. all my friends are in advances classes and it seems like the only reason i get good grades is because i'm not in those advances classes, and if i was, i'd be screwed! im me, and she can't f**k ing change that, but just cuz i hate my mom doesn't mean i block out all my friends!
KilrCircsPenguin: it seems like you get touchy about everything and if we question that we risk loosing your friendship, but whats a friendship without that trust and without talking. we can't even f**k ing talk anymore, DK. their always forced and pointless, about st patricks day, or about ants and donkies, and then the stress all come sback and we just stop talking. its really pointless and im tired of it
KilrCircsPenguin: theres a huge wall between us now and i cant be expected to break it down alone
KilrCircsPenguin: but whatever, you'll just deal out a bunch of other things about how your mad b.c we bug you about trying to reply, and how your life sucks, so i'll just spare you the typing time and go and leave you to piss and moan to sandi
KilrCircsPenguin: have fun"

[Wonder]

Have fun? If some part of this is suppose to be fun, then I missed something. I'd give anything for things to go back to 'normal.' For me to drop what ever life I suddenly realized I had to just get back to my natural obsession of role playing. I totally ditched JL so I'd have more time for this place, but then came school, over 200 of my online and offline friends, my sick grandmother and single-parent mother who both suddenly look to me to walk the dog each day, help with the house, actually sit down and do at least 2 hours of hw a day, keep my honors and my scholarship, start looking for a college to plan for; it goes on. But these are all things I never had to do before. Maybe this is what ppl don’t get about me. I was a carefree, laidback, worriless girl who had all the time in the world to kill by living in a dream world. By doing what I totally loved and what I still cherish. But, again, things changed. Practically overnight. And no, I am not the only one with problems. I know that. And I don’t want this speech of mine to hint at that. But I am the only one that seems to put real life issues before role playing, even if that calls for 'taking a rain check' on a few replies. Yew guys; I admire yew. Even with all that goes on in lives that I know are unfair and hard, yew find the time to come on and do some rping. Yew find the time to keep devoted. Yew find the time; one way or the other. But I just can't do that. It's way to much to ask of me and I will seriously just explode. So, that's why I stopped coming on. It’s why I took a break until things return to some sort of normalcy. And I guess, I took too long of a halt. And it doesn't suit yew ppl. I'm doing all this ranting and probably getting yew really ticked, so again, I'm sorry. But this is who I am. I guess I'm the 'different' gemini. And I hope this works out well. Cuz I need yew guys. I do. But at the moment; I can't drop my life. Not when it's this important...

So yea. That's all I have to say. If this site holds up for a few more days, I -will- come back and move all our plans along. I promise. But if I'm asking for too much, then go ahead and do as yew please. It's not easy for someone like me to apologize, but I do. Really...

-An over-dramatic and looking forward to jumping out of the window [not really ppl] Dariana...-

[GoldenWind]

Hey..kinda know how you feel in a way..practically the same thing happened to me when i used to do Harry Potter rps but anyway..take as long as you need i'll still be here!

[FrostByte]

I'm just not going to say anything. because if I say something, i'll just start a public fight, and I havn't got the will left to do that. I'm just just going to sit here, quietly, like I always do, and be supportive, and think about that one time that I acually let my feelings through, and wish i could be a little bit more like that. But no, i'm not, i'll be with Rory, listening to how you now have to do chores that we all had to do, and worry about college thats 2 years away, and how its not you fault you put us off for monthes. I'm just not going to say, a thing.

Oops, already did

This is lame. This site causes too much trama. I'm out. It's not worth loosing friends over, and I'm tired of arguing and stressing over it. I've had my fun, and it's even harder to get on anyway.

Yes, this seems out of character, but its possibly the most in character thing i've said all weekend.

I can't spell. Don't shoot me. I want to live.

[Lunar]

ok well im not usually one to swear but i might surprise you in my little speech that i have for you dk...

What the hell do you mean 'boy obsessed' im not obsessed, i have a boyfriend, ive had one for 3 months. im sorry if this bugs you, but its not an obsession its a relationship that i worked hard to get. it took me like a long time to finally get what i wanted. and then theres the whole frikken thing you said about 'real-life problems'..well guess what, ive been dealing with those since sept. im like a frikken mother now, i'm a 2nd mom to my lil bro. hes 6 months old, i take him every-other day after school from my mom to take stress off of her. dont tell me about real-life problems. ive been in so many fights this year, i know what its like to get hurt, hell i know just about everything about takin care of a kid. not only do i constantly take matt i get stuck with my terror of a cousin dc alot too. hes 3, he gets into everything and honestly, taking care of a 6 month old and a 3 yr old is kinda hard, have you ever tried? on top of all this im dealin with new problems, yah sure yer in highschool, im in 8th grade. im enterin high-school, i have to deal with my parents askin why my teachers didn't recommend me for honors. we all have problems dk, maybe your just realizing what its like to have chores, but ive been dealing with them for a long time. not everyones an only child, not everyone gets the easy life. you hit hard, some of the frikken things you said. yeah right now i kinda though id need my online friends, cuz you know im facin losin all my other friends cuz im withdrawn and unhappy. ive been told once again that i suck as a friend and that i could take my f**k in shit elsewhere. i hope yer happy, you hit a sore spot and im frikken tired of my life right now. whitefyre wont be around much longer, i dont have enough time to keep pestering someone who honestly doesnt care. im sorry you finally realized what life really is too late. some of us have been dealing with it for a while. sorry if i hurt you, but the stuff you said killed me.
-Becca

[Wonder]

Lesson the first. I can't be hurt by suc words. By the truth. By throwing my actins back in my face. Not really. I don't let it go that far.

Hmm. Somehow I had a feeling that boy thing would hit yew. I guess we had this coming. Things were way too good to last. And since we all seem to have problems and issues that are, I think, more important then this site, then maybe we do need a break. Cuz seriously, this has gone too far. The boyfriend thing is not what bothers me, Beck. It's just not the kinda person I am. Personally, I could actually live without guys. All they bring is trouble. And I sure don’t need any more of it. So I'm sorry too if that hit yew harder then it was meant. It was a discussion between me and namo. It wasn't meant that way. Namo; I like yewr thinking. Always have. It's better to quit while we're ahead, cuz yes, things can get much much worse. Yew guys; do me one last favor. Don't delete the site. We'd be ruining too many things. We're not the only ones that hang here. It's not up to me, but there's no point in just giving up. I'm not the one who brought this up. Yew ppl did. I'm gonna get back into rping in very soon, with or without yew guys. But if the site really goes, there's no hope. Our friendship. What we built for months. It's nothing anymore. Let's not let it come to that. Please. Yew guys defiantly don't kno me too well it seems. Maybe I'm the 'different' gemini. I can't solve all the problems. Only time can...

Rory. Thanx for sticking by and sorry for making ye go through this. I didn't mean for it to get this huge. But things always go wrong. Maybe my mother is rite. I'm the one who messes it all up. Sure seems that way. The blame is on me. Becca; Namo. If it’s not too late. Don't do anything stupid...

[GoldenWind]

Well ok..the site is closing..got the email and yea... Well anyway it was fun while it lasted and if a new site comes up in this one's place that's great! if it doesn't..that's alright too. Well to end my (probably) last post on this site..

'Don't think of this as the end..but as a beginning'

wow..that's very err can't find the right word..that a strange thing for me to say..coz it sounds stupid(i got it from the Grease Movie..i've been watching it to much)

Thanks DK,Becca, Namo and everyone else for the fun time on the site while i was here..

Over 'n out
-Rory

[FrostByte]

oO;; just oO

if it was a conversation between you and I, why did you post it up on the site? Becca pays for this, and its up to her what she's gonna do with it i guess. I think its a little late to say you'll 'get back into rp-ing eventually' we dont know when eventually is, it could take a year. Or maybe you never really will. I guess I'm just saying it might have hurt you, but it really hurt me too. I can't remember the last time I cried, but I crid last night. It was from sorrow, and it wasn't from anger. It was just from confusion i guess....

Becca and I have been talking for a while and we've come to settle on something...

We're going to close the site for about a week or two to et things ready, and when it re-opens, everything will be like zapped into the future. which means none of our characters exhist, except some of the gryphons and stuff cuz they live a long time. So we can have hiers of our characters, but no characters. That way its like we don't have to worry about things as they are now, but we don't loose all our history, because we've had this for so long, adn I don't want to loose everything we've done over a stupid fued.

So yea, i think we still have a lot to discuss, but its settled that WF isn't closing permanently

[Schizophrenia]

I've just decided something guys,needed to post it

I've planned a few things since i've been here,i was even here before Dk came along,and then this last year, i haven't been around. Im in 9th grade,but im going into IB in the 11th and i have lots of work to do,im taking Psycology and stuff and law,i also have 3 jobs.Im 14 and a half and soon I will be driving.I told myself i would be here more,but im stupid,i haven't been.I finally returned and all this breaks out. I love WF, and I love you guys. I really do,and not even my friends can get into that.Softball has kept me from home till 6:00 everyday and at 9:00 only on weekdays do i get on till 11:00.If you don't like that,well sorreh.
I've been here for a long time,played my share,and even thought dk got to be an owner and i was here longer and not one,do i care?nope.as long as this site was going,who owned it or not i did not care.Dk said a few things that hurt people and she was wrong for it,but Namo said somethings and so Did Becca. You guys where all touchy as dk so put it.And I have nothing to say,because you can fus at me,kill me if oyu like,for my inactivity.But I am sorry and can't do anything more for it
Now more to the point. Im leaving forever,you guys harly ever rp throught aim wit me when im on and you are,and you guys have done all this alone,i am not needed.Im so angry right now.I've even tried suicide twice in the past 2 years,and im still living.i can still cope with lots,handle it and all.So im leaving.I can't stay in a place im not really needed,playing characteres that where once important and no longer are.See you guys sometime in the future.Have Fun

[Wonder]

Wow. This has officially gone way too far. If we future-ize the site, it'd only be becca, namo and me rp'ing. I'm not even sure if I'd wanna ditch all my characters and start over. Too much has been put into it. We'd lose a -lot- of people. And things will just die. I don't like it. And after our little chat of 'closure' and all, can't we just... forget this? A break; we really need it. It is impossible for a person to stay dedicated to a single rp for days after days for months. And we have done it. Personally, as stated b4, WF was almost dead when I came along last June. Afterwards, we had a good 4/5 months of non stop rp. Then, things slowed down here and there. They started up again. And now, here we are. The thing I loved most about this place is the fact that we were so laid-back and not strict like all the other places out there. I mean, if we suddenly made 'being active' a requirement, we mite as all just forget rping forever. I back Crystal on what she said; it's good getting an 'outside' prospective on this whole deal. Can't we just ... move on now? Take a break for a week as stated, then come back in need of role playing? I love every single one of my characters, and to kill them all off ad start from the beginning. I seriously wouldn't be able to. I'm over this whole thing already. I just need some backup...

[GoldenWind]

I have like two veiws on this furturizing(sp?) the site thing..I know i don't really have a say in what will eventually happen to the site and it's probably all settled and everything..but anyway

I know i don't have alot of charactors I have like 3 while you guys have 20 or maybe even more. But still there's one thing in common we all spent alot of time developing charactors to what they are today.

and..

But then also I'd rather start over with new charactors then have this place close down..i would have nothing to do then!

There are my two cents
Rory

[Schizophrenia]

So Miss.DK is trying to say that because she came along the place lived?Whatever,Anyways, if he futurize the site,not only will you three be playing,i will be.You won't lose many members if they have young characters,becaused we would lose everything if we went like 14 years into the future which is how long we will have to go to get rid of them all,so its a good idea

[FrostByte]

well shoot my dog and call me sally. Maiie mom said I can come on once my homeworks done. And I had little to no homework so yee-ha

hmm.. well for starters, we can't have any more blaming here. And we have to admit it, this site was nearly dead until i stole DK away from communityzero and petz and plopped her here, in a half dead site. It was her avid posting that made us alive again, but on the other hand, she couldn't have done that alone, everybody else had to reply for it to work. But we did. and it did. so there's really nothing to complain about, we're still standing, right?

Onto the futurization thing, I've been thinking about it, and it has it's ups and downs. For one, we don't have to make everything come to a sudden halt, instead we can just start over and continue from a blank slate. Because lets face it, theres some pretty hard-core stuff going on, and I would not want to wait monthes until we finally move on with it. That would suck.

But on the other hand, there's so many things that we havn't had the chance to do yet we still plan to do them. I know Becca and I have some wicked Crystal (the character ) plots going on, and we had a lot of new litters comming up, plus the whole war thing. It was gonna be fun. And if we fast forward, nobody will know where to start from, because we never made the past, we don't really know where we are in the future.

So thats my 5 cents. Yes I know, i get 3 more cents than the average person, but i'm special like that ;D

[Wonder]

-Hugs namo- Couldn't have said it better. I mean; I have like 30 characters, and if I had to kill'm all off, it'd kinda suck seeing as I'm too much of a lazieh ass to 're-enter' them in another rp. Plus, my charries wouldn't be themselves without their families and such. And if we future-ize the site, not only do we have to redo all our characters, but we're asking Rory and Spark and Trin and Boa and all the other WF rp'ers [who, yes, are still around, but as me have been busy. I can get them back in the blink of an eye] to kill their characters. And I don't think that's fair. Namo pretty much covered everything else. Crystal [the human]. Didn't mean anything by it. Just in yewr last post yew said yew were leaving, so I took it seriously. Let's not start any more brawls. If Becca agrees, let's just pick up everything were we left it. We'd all be happier that way. And I'm ready for rping. Really. -Curses school and runs off to bed...-

[Schizophrenia]

Told Becca I would Think About it,which is what im doing,even if im still talking to you guys. Im here,but not here. Get it?lol